Observed the full moon with a Canon 35 mm camera, eclipsed by a “sharp edge” (the front balcony of our house) and then moved the camera so that the Moon appeared from behind the edge and imaged it again. The moon was about 45 degrees above the horizon on a very clear sky. Sector was chosen to avoid the gum trees seen lower left
Image above is the UNECLIPSED moon close to but detached from the edge of the house. The radial profile was measured in the inner region of the sector shown, with the outer region defining the background sky for subtraction.
Image above shows the light from the moon, now placed just behind the roof’s edge. The radial profile was measured in a similar manner as before.
The idea is to test if the scattered light far from the moon is the same in both cases, i.e. is mainly due to the atmosphere.
The result is that it does indeed seem to be due to the atmosphere — the light falls off as a log-log power law exactly the same and, for two images with the same exposure time, the falloff has the same surface brightness on the sky.
The falloff at large R (> log(R)=2.1, or about 125 pixels (1 pixel is about 1 arcminute) is exactly the same in the two cases, going out to more than 1000 arcmin (15 degrees). There is some funny behaviour near the knife edge, with some missing light in the eclipsed profile relative to the uneclipsed one, but it was very difficult to estimate where the center of the moon was behind the knife edge — since the moon is eclipsed — and the behaviour is quite sensitive to the moon’s position. Tried to figure out where the moon was using stars in the background, but the field distortions in the 35mm lens were too severe to model with a handful of stars.
If we try this again it would be better to leave the camera fixed and wait for the
Earth to turn and eclipse the moon, rather than moving the camera. A sequence of images as the moon approaches the knife edge might make modeling where the moon ends up behind it easier.
The suggestion to leave Moon to move behind house-edge by itself is good – motion could be mapped in pixel-space and lunar disk centre better determined in post-processing.
Images every minute or so, for half an hour!
Now 2021: we have learned, with Daytona Beach, of the role of f# in setting the level of the PSF wings. What was the f# of the various DSLR images of Sun and Moon that we have? We should take a series of images of Sun or Moon at various f#s on the same day – with and without eclipsers.
Wow! Great to see this after such a long time! Do I read the plots correctly – With the Moon eclipsed the halo dropoff is the same as when it isn’t eclipsed? I.e. we are seeing atmospheric scattering here – optics is low?
My own comments from 7 years ago tell it all! Wahey!
Brilliant work this! It implies that the halo around the Moon is present in our telescope after the SKE (if we ever get it working) and therefore has the same profile at the CCD as we see around the Moon without SKEs. It also implies that the only benefit BBSO gets from the SKE is to enable longer exposure times (not a bad thing, of course!) and cutting some bright light that might otherwise bounce around inside the telescope after reflecting on the CCD surface and illuminating backs of all sorts of things. The SKE itself does not make the halo profile any more linear in the wings than it already is.